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14 Jul 2012 10:08 AM
Is it? It seems likely that it is, as there are probably more things out there than we know about.


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14 Jul 2012 10:09 AM
The universe is made up of stuff and space. Stuff and space can't be infinite because if so then where was the stuff before it was created?


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14 Jul 2012 10:11 AM
@zomg Where did matter come from? How do you know it existed before? You don't. It's impossible to tell.


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14 Jul 2012 10:12 AM
@dra I never said it came from nowhere. It came from some kind of explosion. It has been proven that matter can't have come from nothing so this argument is pointless.


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14 Jul 2012 10:15 AM
@zomg It could've been the energy coming from the Big Bang, as well. I'm not saying that matter came from nothing, just that it's impossible to tell how it came into being.


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14 Jul 2012 10:16 AM
@dra Energy can't form from nothing, and neither can matter. I would love for someone to prove otherwise though. This is a good thing to think about.


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14 Jul 2012 10:18 AM
@zomg What if we're all in a simulation? What if that was created by something?


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14 Jul 2012 10:22 AM
@dra Then what was everything before that? Who created that? You can't be serious with this crap. I say you are though.


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14 Jul 2012 10:24 AM
@zomg We don't know where stuff comes from. It could be a random chance thing, but who's to say?


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14 Jul 2012 10:25 AM
@dra That's the point. Nothing can come out of nothing, and since nothing can come out of nothing then there must have been something that created it. No matter how small, you must be able to go back until there is nothing.


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14 Jul 2012 10:27 AM
@dra You can only go so far back before you reach something. The further back you go, the smaller you get until you reach what I call "the smallest particle", which is so small it doesn't have any size. We may not ever be able to know what's there, or if anything is even there. But we can only go so far.


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14 Jul 2012 10:30 AM
@zomg It could be an infinite series of things in an endless loop, with each thing creating itself over and over again. This is just an example though.


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14 Jul 2012 10:34 AM
@dra If it was infinite, it would still be made up of stuff and space. So where did that stuff and space come from? It's impossible. But I'm starting to think maybe this is too big a question to ask.


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14 Jul 2012 10:36 AM
@zomg That's the point. We don't know where it came from. The universe, I mean.


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14 Jul 2012 10:37 AM
@dra The universe may never have had an original state. It could have always been here.


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14 Jul 2012 10:39 AM
@zomg I think you're saying that it has always existed, but I'm not sure how that'd work.


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14 Jul 2012 10:43 AM
@dra I don't think we'll ever know for sure. There is too many variables in play.


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14 Jul 2012 10:48 AM
@zomg It seems that way, but we can still try.


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14 Jul 2012 10:51 AM
@dra I know, and that's why I was interested in this topic. But, the problem with trying to figure out the answer is that there are so many variables involved that even if we were to make a guess, we would probably be wrong.


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14 Jul 2012 10:54 AM
@zomg It's true though. It might take a while for us to figure out stuff like this, but we will eventually find the answers.


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14 Jul 2012 11:02 AM
@dra I think we may never know, unless we find some kind of answer that is totally unexpected and makes all sense. But I really don't think we will ever find the answer to something as complex as "how did the universe come to exist?"


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14 Jul 2012 12:47 PM
@zomg I'm sure that one day we'll have answers to questions like that.


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14 Jul 2012 06:25 PM
@dra I hope so.


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