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I can't believe the people who think the US is a democracy

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02 Mar 2017 02:26 AM
like seriously, we're a republic it's so sad that the world has such little knowledge of how it's governments actually work


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02 Mar 2017 02:27 AM
*so much


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02 Mar 2017 02:28 AM
It's not even a republic. It's an oligarchy with some democratic elements.


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02 Mar 2017 02:29 AM
it's a representative republic with some oligarchical elements


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02 Mar 2017 02:30 AM
Democracy is just mob rule, and republics are usually oligarchies that have been legitimized by a system of elections and "democratic" institutions.


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02 Mar 2017 02:31 AM
>democracy is just mob rule that's the very definition of a democracy


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02 Mar 2017 02:32 AM
Mob rule, as in the majority ruling over the minority without any consideration for their opinions or interests. It's just rule by the majority.


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02 Mar 2017 02:35 AM
ok so you're saying the US isn't a democracy then


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02 Mar 2017 02:36 AM
It is a republic.


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02 Mar 2017 02:38 AM
but that's not what i said what i said was "it's a representative republic with some oligarchical elements" which is true because the US has a representative government and it doesn't have a direct democracy like venezuela


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02 Mar 2017 02:39 AM
We also have a lot of oligarchies here, especially since corporations are considered "people" and can therefore be represented on the Supreme Court and all that stuff.


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02 Mar 2017 02:40 AM
"it's a representative republic with some oligarchical elements" yes there are a lot of oligarchies in the US but those aren't directly related to the political system those are things that exist outside of the political system


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02 Mar 2017 02:44 AM
inb4 someone calls me an edgy leftist or something for this thread


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02 Mar 2017 02:48 AM
The political system is the oligarchy, which is represented by the institutions. The people are just the voters who have no real influence over the decisions made in these institutions, but who nevertheless participate in the elections (which are designed to make them feel as if they are part of the decision-making process).


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02 Mar 2017 02:49 AM
that's not how politics works in the US the people don't actually make the decisions


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02 Mar 2017 02:51 AM
There are certain decisions that affect the entire population (i.e., elections) that are supposed to be made by the people. However, there are other decisions that only concern a specific minority or interest group, and they're left entirely up to the oligarchy that represents that minority interest or group.


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02 Mar 2017 02:55 AM
that doesn't make the US a democracy, however if that were true then it wouldn't have been necessary for the electoral college to exist since the majority would choose the president


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